• ihaveibs [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Tried to use Tiktok a while back, had to stop after a week because once the algorithm “realized” I was a man it would not stop sending me Joe Rogan clips, thirst traps of young women, and other incredibly misogynist (and racist, and any other sort of reactionary) content. It was pretty fucking heinous. Lasering that into young minds that can’t defend themselves is a deeply upsetting crime against humanity.

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      Seriously, I have a roommate who is ostensibly a nice guy, never says anything sexist/racist or whatever, and our living situation involves a Black/indigenous woman. But I hear him listening to TikToks all the time that are just the most vile misogynist or weirdly tradtional viewpoints (“women, if you make dinner but your husband don’t like it, what do you do as a good wife?” etc). I feel like he’s probably not even choosing these toks, they’re just unavoidable.

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        I feel like he’s probably not even choosing these toks, they’re just unavoidable.

        My TikTok feed is full of communists, he’s engaging with the content, and it’s responding in kind.

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          swear to god tho your algo gets reset every so often if you engage with commie content regularly. my fyp will be good for like a week then all of a sudden its back to liberal/fascist content till i retrain the fuckin thing

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        In a communist utopia, if you wanted to watch trashy social media garbage while you take the train home after a long day you should be forced to hunt for it in one big alphabetical directory that looks like mid-‘90s Yahoo. Recommendation algorithms are inherently reactionary and after the revolution they must be abolished.

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        Skill issue

        Only tiktok adjacent that I have issues with is yt shorts. My algo is tism, trans, communist, gaymer, feminist, and black liberation, with a few thirst traps here and there. I’m a 30 y.o. hwite bisexual gaymer dude(?). And here’s an example of what pops up on my fyp.

        https://www.tiktok.com/@dimension20honey/video/7363700906333850923?

        The only thing I can think of that might be screwing with his algorithm is gymtok maybe?

        Edit: pretend like you didn’t notice my poor opsec and you don’t know what I’m talking about. Thanks 🙏

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          I think for me it was probably that I liked watching sports clips. So it didn’t matter how many times I tried to block reactionary shit fromy feed

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            Yeah I definitely think that’s the foot in the door for sure, fitness in general while good and having plenty of cool people in it, has plenty of toxic people in it, much in the same way gaming does(except I guess when tiktok can tell you’re not straight?). sans-shrug

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          Idk it might be because he does fuck with motivational/grindset sort of shit. He’s also white. When I was on TikTok it just kept feeding me dancing Latina women because it knew I’m a male and I can speak Spanish lol. I successfully trained it to feed me MOSTLY stuff about life in rural China and music stuff but the garbage was always waiting to bubble to the surface

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          Yeah I really feel like the app is kind of default shitty and then if you’re a milquetoast white guy like him then the app just feeds you progressively more sexist right-wingy content because you’re a white guy who doesn’t critically engage with the content. It’s like it only changes if you somehow signal you’re non-white non-male

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    7 minutes in and these guys are like “unlimited genocide on the first world, unironically it’s time for purges, kill everyone in the right, etc etc” lmao

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      I thought you were exaggerating. I know it’s a small channel, but holy shit I didn’t think you could say something that blunt and not get blackholed by some automated NSA algorithm.

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        Like 200 views in 6 hours and half of them are likely from here. They aren’t worth the effort to even look into suppressing.

        This comment section is larger than the comment section of their video.

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        Starting at 7 minutes with guy on the left:

        I have my threshold - you’re right though, you’re right, I have my threshold, and my wife will tell you I’m the first to say that we need to bring back some kind of massive purge of people that don’t need to exist anymore, not just even limited to violent criminals but really people who think that it’s okay to put themselves above others, right, people who just totally ignore the fact that other people exist. A-and are biologically uh inept from empathizing with other people and let say “Well they’re poor, they’re homeless it’s their fault” people like that, yeah, should be executed, but like you said, re-education, right, before we through the hammer down, we got to give it a shot. I - look - and that’s why I say I open my doors, you come in, you have a conversation, and if by the end of it that I’m convinced that you’re unsalvageable? Then off to the woodchipper you go. In my book. That’s-

        Followed by guy on the right:

        And that’s why it’s funny to me because you say that even like the libertarian and the chuds and everybody are redeemable, and I’m over here saying “no american is redeemable”.

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          Not shooting the messenger, but I feel the guy shouldn’t ruminate much on purging and killing…

          If I were him, I’d just say:

          You either get shot or you’re free and with me, no compromises like prison or re-education…

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    idk if y’all ever get glimpses into the culture of 16-27 year old men on your tiktok but it’s incredibly bleak

    all of the content creators they watch are very anti-social. They use poor people as entertainment - shitty annoying pranks, paying people to be a zoo animal in some degrading gameshow, humiliating them in interviews or other crap, constantly reacting to “abnormal” people by bullying them for laughs

    They teach men how to become a fuckboi and drown by being manipulative and vapid (appearing to have high social status, flexing wealth) instead of just being a good person

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    About 2m in:

    France - men are more likely to support Marine Le Pen’s far-right National Rally while women vote left

    And then the host says they just got into power lmao. No, the left-wing coalition won, the right-wing coalition did worse than expected. And men and women voted equally, at least in the first round. Instead it came down to age and occupation. Why are they discussing something they haven’t investigated?

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      WTF is this podcast… This should be in dunk tank not videos.

      3m40: Maternal instincts? What.

      4m50: Omg he wants a broad tent that includes bigots. No, do political struggle and education.

      5m20: I will talk with Adolf Hitler, he says brow

      6m40: They are now saying said bigots are subhuman and that it’s OK for them to die. Which like, OK go off but please pick one.

      7m50: OK guy on the left is synthesizing these ideas by being pro-reeducation. Real.

      8m: Guy on the right wants to kill all Americans ok lmao

      12-13m: (paraphrasing) “Women are better at serving because of sociological conditioning… no actually it’s also because their brains are different…” bruh-moment “I’m a rabid feminist that thinks there are significant biological differences in the brain” centrist

      13m40: Casually transphobic remark about putting on a dress and “tucking your wiener”

      14m: Says all creatures with a central nervous system should be treated equally. vegan-liberation

      17m30: Now they’re being racist???

      25m: Transitional healthcare misinformation

      All offense: These two are idiots who are just uttering their stream of consciousness instead of doing research and thinking before they talk. Some “political analysis.” pathetic

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        Yeah the whole time I’m going between thinking they have a decent opinion on some small point and then it derails and flips to something stupid. I feel like they had transphobic transinclusive opinions(?). I couldn’t tell if it was a bit at first since I’ve never seen these people before. I kept wondering if their opinion of “cut off your dick or whatever I don’t care you do you” was their serious position.

        Overall they’ll probably spend less time in the reducation camps than a lot of other people but they’ll still be in there.

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    The green parties are barely left aren’t they, you’re basically just getting gender-specific right wing parties. One that’s like city-business capitalist and one that’s more extractive capitalist.

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    Piketty wrote a book about voting tendencies in medium long term, and everywhere on earth this is becoming a more and more pronounced distinction, which didn’t exist in the past.

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    Unironically shit like this makes me question if I’m “really” a guy at all. Like, I am not going to vote for the deaths of a bunch of “undesirables” just because it’s “cool”, or I think it’s funny. Yet I am by far in the minority here. Like, am I just trans or something and this is a sign that’s the case?