• grrgyle@slrpnk.netEnglish
      23·
      2 个月前

      If you’re especially non-confrontational, then even the first one, or 0 reaction, can do. Just don’t do the polite chuckle. They’ll think it landed.

      I have to work really hard not to laugh myself, and instead let it be awkward.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      49·
      2 个月前

      It’s all about where you live and what you look like.

      I’m a huge white dude in a red state, I’ve been getting hit on by nazis since before I was a teenager because I look like their “ideal”.

      Like, when they picture their “master race” it’s what I look like, so they always fucking assume I’ll agree with any side comment they make.

      If you’re not in a super blue area, you’re not hearing stuff because something identifies you as “them” and not “us”. But even in blue areas I’ll hear shit.

      • idiomaddict@lemmy.worldEnglish
        301·
        2 个月前

        I’m a white American immigrant in Germany. The shit people say to me about immigrants, which they then walk back with “but not you, you’re one of the good ones,” is infuriating.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      2 个月前

      Sadly, they often disagree. The whole basis of bigotry is the idea that I’m human and you’re less than.

      • Zorque@lemmy.worldEnglish
        221·
        2 个月前

        Being human doesn’t make you good. Plenty of humans are monsters. They’re not some eldritch evil that simply started existing hating, they chose this.

        That makes them worse, of course… but still very very human.

      • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nzEnglish
        78·
        2 个月前

        In drag’s experience, calling someone a human is a tremendously vicious insult if you have cool enough friends.

  • cally [he/they]@pawb.socialEnglish
    38·
    2 个月前

    You don’t need to be cisgender, heterosexual, male or white to call people out on their bigoted beliefs.

    Edit: if you are in those categories you’re more likely to be taken more seriously by other cishet white men. I think I understand the point of the original post now.

    • Dasus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      261·
      2 个月前

      No, but bigoted, cisgendered, heterosexual white men are probably more likely to listen to other cisgendered heterosexual white men due to their bigotry.

      Someone disagreeing within Chad Junior’s very narrow social circle will mean more to him than someone outside of the circle, especially if that person is also unlike Chad Junior in several ways. Unfortunate as it is.

      • Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        11·
        2 个月前

        In my experience that is almost never the case. They’ll just call you a liberal soyboy or something and never think on it further.

    • JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      2 个月前

      Definitely. It’s just an amplifier. Imagine a protestor saying “too many cops are violent and need to cool it”, as opposed to a cop saying “too many cops are violent and need to cool it”

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        2 个月前

        Exactly. Also some of us have learned to fear pushing back against cishet men who are being aggressive. As a trans lesbian I’m not going to improve the situation with confrontation, I’ll just get shouted at, called a snowflake, or otherwise dismissed. But when say, my girlfriend’s husband, a very large extremely masculine cishet guy challenges it, it may not always go well, but it’s perceived as peer disapproval as opposed to “triggering the enemy”.

  • electric_nan@lemmy.mlEnglish
    322·
    2 个月前

    These comments, yeesh. I am a cis white dude, and I don’t see how this post is offensive. As I’ve gotten older and more self-confident, I absolutely call people out for their garbage opinions/statements. Being a cis/straight/white dude it happens all the time that somebody says something racist/sexist/homophobic in front of me assuming I’ll be sympathetic. I’ve used all these “scripts” and encourage you all to use them also.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
        42·
        2 个月前

        I had a Mexican friend back in college and we used to joke that if you put El in front of something, it became Spanish.

        So he’d say something like, “Hey, do you want to get el pizza tonight?”

        And I’d say, “Sorry, I don’t speak Spanish.”

        (Although normally we’d do it as an inside joke when someone couldn’t understand him because of his accent.)

    • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
      141·
      2 个月前

      My ‘hey, you’re being a fuck stick’ detector doesn’t discriminate, despite what my stolen meme says

      • psvrh@lemmy.caEnglish
        253·
        2 个月前

        Middle-aged white men have a lot of privilege. It’s time we used it for good.

        Is this white-saviour and/or patriarchial? Yup. Does it work? Also yup.

        I don’t know if we all realize this, but some shitlord being told “What the fuck is wrong you?!” cuts deeper when it comes from someone who looks like their dad, granddad, or their boss.

        I’m a 47-year old white guy in a leadership position in a large company. I’ve done exactly this to both young-millenial edgelord types who think I’m in on the joke, and boomer or elder-Xers who are yelling at clouds. I will tell you that, not only does it smack down the dipshit who thought that “lol rape” or “brown people bad” was funny, it also sets the tone for everyone else in the room, and it gets word around that bigotry isn’t acceptable.

        Anyone can say this, but it hits harder when it’s someone privileged. Women, LGBTQ folk and other vulnerable groups don’t have this privilege, and get shut down, and if we don’t want that to be the case, we need to speak up for them.

        • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
          16·
          2 个月前

          Fuck yes. This is the entire point of the post. This is not my meme, but some turds are focusing in on ‘buh only WhItE mEn?!’. No. Not just white men. White women and children too, anikan. Anybody really.

          You raise a very good point about our white male privilege and the lack of ‘stopping power’ less privileged groups have when challenging bigotry.

        • AlpacaChariot@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          2 个月前

          All of this also applies to women saying horrible things being called out by other women who they respect / think are part of their social group.

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        155·
        2 个月前

        It’s only bigotry if it’s cishetwhitemen doing it, otherwise it’s just sparkling discrimination.

        I’m not in the trenches of this particular culture war, so I don’t know shit, but I really do wonder why not phrase it as “people who want to be better allies” instead of targeting a single racial group and sexual orientation. Would feel more inclusive.

        • grrgyle@slrpnk.netEnglish
          6·
          2 个月前

          I think you got it. The op was probably fixating on the biggest impact that they can see, but that’s going to vary by community and who is reading this.

          Also huge shocker, diverse groups of people also need to be mindful of this shit.

          It’s the reason good “DEI” policies are important. If you just start hiring people from more diverse backgrounds (good) then have them land in a toxic work environment with 0 support (bad) then they’re not likely to thrive.

    • john_@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1114·
      2 个月前

      Yes. Didn’t you know that straight men are the root of all problems in the world?

  • JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.worldEnglish
    281·
    2 个月前

    “I won’t let you talk to them that way” is a bad one that doesn’t belong on this list. It implies you’re in control of them, which you’re not. It’s essentially a bluff, and if they call it, you need to be able to beat them up.

    To add more good phrases to this list, the phrases need to imply that the person still has their own agency (because they do), and that it’s just a dipshit way to use that agency. The other phrases are great.

  • A7thStone@lemmy.worldEnglish
    25·
    2 个月前

    I told a coworker they were “full of shit” then repeated that when they said “what?”

  • kindenough@kbin.earth
    24·
    2 个月前

    Pfff. Everytime my father in law goes on a racist diatribe I tell him, “Mustafa is what now?”. He is my Egyptian brother in law and the kindest and hospitable person I know.

    I also very dislike my father in law, used to be a somewhat good guy, then he got old and racist.